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Psychic advisors join the hunt for Madeleine McCann
Hunt for missing girl reaches a new level
Sunday 20th May 2007, 17:47
Police hunting the whereabouts of missing 4 year old Madeleine McCann have started using a wider range of resources including a ‘TRV’ – Technical Remote Viewers, a psychic investigator.
As well as engaging the services of some of the worlds best known police ESP advisors, several ‘Cracker’ style police psychologists and investigators have also joined the hunt.
Madeleine McCann vanished from her ground floor apartment almost three weeks ago as her parents left her unattended while they dined at a nearby restaurant. The search for the missing girl has been extensive throughout the time that she has been missing and police are no clearer to knowing where she may have been taken to until now.
The use of psychic investigators have been used many times before. Some in famous cases such as the Yorkshire ripper, the disappearance of teenager Milly Dowler and another missing girl in the US by the name of Leah Freeman.
Police say that often these resources can be used as a last resort but also because information from TRV’s can sometimes bring in leads that can help to solve some of the most serious of cases.
However there are many sceptics that say that remote viewers are merely elaborate hoaxers that have no more ability than the man on the street and that they simply hinder the real investigation by throwing up false leads.
There was no mistaking one famous case in the United States when a remote viewer helped solve the case of missing girl also named Maddie in 1999.
Maddie Rae Clifton disappeared in Jacksonville, Florida in 1999 and two PSI TECH viewers, Ed Dames and Ingo Swann both of CIA US intelligence performed initial probes and after only forty-five minutes were able to determine that the child was no longer alive.
They also ascertained that the missing girl was submerged in water, trapped beneath a metal grate or grid. The following day, she was found underneath a neighbor's waterbed. She had been murdered.
Technical Remote Viewers have not been used in this latest case of missing 4 year old Madeleine McCann to date because Portuguese Police said that they had enough positive leads to follow up and that they were confident that the child would be found in relative quick time.
However, several psychic readers have come forward and have suggested that the child was driven out of Portugal and into Spain on the evening that she went missing.
One psychic viewer suggested that Maddie was still alive and living somewhere near to a farm in Southern Spain. They suggested that there were goats and a dog nearby and that there was a child at the location who was being cared for and who was safe but unhappy to be away from her parents.
Police say that the remote viewer was uncertain and that she was receiving a vision of a child from a distant past or whether it was a recent vision. Also the child appeared to be much older than Madeleine.
A team of special officers in Southern Spain were alerted to the allegations and were dispatched to seek out such locations. Apparently, they are continuing to search all remote areas of Southern Spain as well as contacting known criminals living in and working in farms across Southern Spain and Portugal.
“Finding the exact location of a target presents its own unique set of difficulty” says Mr Dames. “Most times we are dealing with homogenous terrain and typical types of buildings and vehicles: waterways, bridges, lakes, holes in the ground. We have to find out which vehicle, which waterway, which building, which city or town.”
“We employ advanced techniques to pin point unique geography and significant features. This is the hardest part of our operation. This is the point where patience and experience is essential for success. This is where most mistakes are made due to lack of thoroughness or rush to judgment.”
“When the data reveals a particular city, the search then begins to be narrowed, where in the city? If the data points to train tracks and water, which train tracks? Which body of water? Working from the general to the specific, the search continues until a precise site is pinpointed.”
In the case of missing girl Madeleine McCann, Police are open to all suggestions but are treating each with appropriate levels of skepticism. “There have been a lot of claims about what has happened to Maddie ever since the reward money was raised to £2.5million” said one police officer. “We have to be very careful that we don’t lose sight of the things we already know when following up some of these new claims”.
Meanwhile, in Pliai Da Luz, the hunt for Madeleine McCann continues and Kate and Gerry McCann have vowed to stay in Portugal until the whereabouts of their child is determined and she is returned safely.
We would like to know if you have any comments on this particular issue of remote viewing and we would like to hear your comments below.
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Madeleine McCann
Posted
by Neo
on Tuesday 10.07.2007, 10:17 AM
I generally don't go out and push things on people, nor as you can see am I in this for the money.
I am not obviously near Portugal, and do not have the ability to be there. In any event, Perhaps someone can find something here:
http://www.freewebs.com/jimbrowninwa/newcases.htm
Please feel free to let me know..
dream
Posted
by Tara
on Friday 6.07.2007, 03:44 PM
I had a dream where Madeline had a black aura. I took that to mean she was either very sick or depressed. She was showing me a dusty gravel track slope and skateboarders.
Or...
Posted
by
on Friday 15.06.2007, 07:40 PM
...or....ome of the suggestions below but that the McCanns and some sad little New Age spiritualist cult (favoured by the likes of Cherie Blair and featuring all manner of Sophian Gnostic b***s**t and magdalane related nonsense) has been bankrolled by some daft media figures simply to further the literary, psychic and spiritual careers of a circle of misfit, glory-seeking chuffers who like nothing better than indulging their spurious sexual appetites with quasi-religious sex rituals and bizarre-love-triangles - becuase they're too high-brow and middle-class to admit they simply like sh***ing different partners of an evening. Is nobody checking the links between these luvvies and the McCanns? Check the agency recruitment records from all these daft shows like Trishas and Most 'theatrically' Haunted. And if you're looking for links between the psychic predators, the Blairs and the McCanns look no further than Cherie Blair's lifestyle guru Carol Caplin and her Reiki munching bunch of shysters. It'll be like moving a stone (a rune stone, naturally) and finding loads of pesky termites running out from beneath it.
Somebody has already mentioned that it's a hoax. A 'psychic challenge'. Hopefully 'Maggie' will turn up and they'll take their sorry - but richly profitable - charade somewhere else.
If there wasn't just a chance that Blair will turn this whole diabolical con to his advantage in turning people on to his 'new age religion' then the whole thing would be funny. He got into Labour simply to destroy, now he intends to get into the Vatican to destroy. 'New God' indeed. In Tony own reprobate image and poor Maggie's sweet image.
Psychics my arse. Charlatans by any other name more like.
But yeah, it looks like the blanket and the tip-off thing is a red-herring. Tho it probably does have Maggies DNA on it. The person who did the tip-off put it there afterall. And the only way they could that is if they or their silent circle of friends know the McCanns.
The friends are all in on it. They'll be some New Age bunch of quasi-religious high-ranking misfits themselves.
And there she was. Gone. Another reading
Posted
by
on Friday 15.06.2007, 03:39 PM
Been wondering about the significance of the blanket found today in the scrubland? Me too. If it's an indication she buried elsewhere, then it's bad news, but if it is a Magdalene Cult that has taken Madeleine ('Magdalene') here's how it might support their dubious agenda (did you Madeleine's birthday was the same day as the Feast Of Our Lady At Fatima: The anniversary of the Fatima Miracles?)
Here's how I see it: the feminine icon's 'resurrection'.
When Christ was crucified he was placed in the tomb wrapped in a shroud.
When Mary enetered the tomb there was no body - just a blanket/the shroud.
I think they are leaving evidence that would support somekind of 'transfiguration' theory.
The Magdalene Cult want to indicate she is about to be reborn. On the third day she rose, or is the number different for the females?
Mark 15 - Luke 2 "And Joseph [11] bought a linen shroud, and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen shroud and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock." For what happens next, have a look at the Gospel Of John. Release the dove...
Is the next scene set on the shore of the Sea of Tiberias? Maybe. But's let's consider other options too.
Okay but how about this ...
Posted
by
on Friday 15.06.2007, 11:15 AM
A religious cult inspired by Holy Hijacker laurence Downey and some loony Magdalene 'Da Vinci esque' Atlantis/Avalaon/Fatima/Apocalypse stuff, abduct a child and plan to extort the 'real third miracle' out of him - but he fails to relent. He won't 'pay' the 'holy ransom'. And something happens to the child. They panic and convince themselves that Madeleine was a martyr, a sacrifice, a spiritual guide or beacon that would lead thw world to the Second Coming (yes, they're bonkers, but bonkers people can be dangerous). The child is retrieved but a lid has to be placed on it all. The world cannot know that the Vatican was not prepared to negotiate the release of a child (remember Ken Bigley? We don't negotiate with terrorists? Could be the same thing here). A way that lets them all off the hook is to make it look like a paedo ring. They contrive/set up a few connections to the Dutch/Amsterdam case (in case in which there features some unexplained 'third' DNA), the body is smuggled back onto the scrubland, a letter and towel arrives out of the blue and the case gets closed as there just haeppns to be that 'extra' DNA they found in the apartment a few weeks ago: perhaps just after this whole thing went wrong).
The religious cult, however, don't know that they were set up in the first place and their reward for keeping quiet is to be spared criminal charges (at least for now - but that's likely to change. They clear up the case using refuse bags as always. Nothing will be allowed to rot or start sprouting new shoots. Perhaps that's why the remote viewer saw 'heavy green gardening refuse bags').
Dunno. Could be any or all of these.
A Squeeze on the Pope?
Posted
by
on Friday 15.06.2007, 10:41 AM
With refernce to the post below. It's plausible that this whole thing has been a squeeze on the Pope to reveal the TRUE Third Miracle. Downey and the Fatima followers always believed that Pope John Paul lied when he 'revealed' the Third Miracle (that it was it predicted the attempt on his own life in 1981). Getting the McCanns in front of the Pope was the attempt to squeeze him still further. He was to experience first-hand what his decision could do to these poor people. And with Madeleine becoming a much-loved international figure, it would provide an addtional pressure. If he revealed the third-miracle it would inspire the whole world because Madeleine lives - a world with hope. If he fails to reveal it, he will sent the whole world spiralling into grief and despair - a world without hope. Let's assume the Third-Secret of Fatima had become an issue of National Security. Downey and the Fatima faithful (of which Tony Blair was one according to the Mail On Sunday last week, that is, a recent member of the Immaculate Heart of Mary Church) INSISTED the Third-Secret revealed the details on Armageddon. The Fatima Church still INSISTS the Pope has lied. Well if he did lie, then he is witholding information that might be relevant to National Security (you can't very well send the Pope to Guantanomo Bay or hold him 90 days without charge now, can you?). Blair has been meeting the Pope frequently over the last few years - and people assume he wants to become a commmitted member of the Catholic Church. But get this, the Church In Rome and The Fatima Church are not quite the good chums they appear to be on the surface - and the Third-Miracle/Final Dogma issue is the one that threatens to tear the Church of Rome apart. Downey himself looked toward a utopian ideal that was based around a 'Churchless Society' - a world where the Church had been destroyed. Morality and God were fine but Churches were considered a threat to world peace. You might roughly call this a new secular world order he had in mind (btw: when Downey hijacked the plane in Dublin in 1981 and instructed the Pope to reveal the Third-Secret of Fatima: he hijacked the plane on 02nd May. Madeleine was abducted on the 03rd May. There was a subsequent assaination on the Pope's life on the 13th May - the anniversary of the Fatima Miracles. Subsequent to the abduction of Madeleine there was a 'peaceful assasination' when someone tried to launch themselves on the Pope Mobile. Was this somekind of threat? That security could be breached - if someone WANTED it to be breached?) The religious cults, the Magdalene stuff - an elaborate set-up perhaps, whose members might end up taking the rap, or were the ones recruited to actually make the squeeze, to hold the ransom, to abduct the child, to negotiate with officials. The Holy father was proposed two alternate endings. The agonising wait on what might turn up on the scrubland might still be part of the squeeze. If he fails to give in to their demands they have an Amsterdam related paedo-ring explanation. If he does then Madeleine won't turn up on the scrubland but be found in the thrall of a bizarre religious cult. It might still go either way. There's a frame-up in place for each scenario. I have have an uneasy feeling it won't though. Let's just hope we're all just going to wake up and realise it was all a dream.
(All of course worthy of a story you might to download to your mobile - but plausible this time: the 'Mistress of the Grail'! How's that? 'Release The Dove' is better though. But looks like it's already been thought of).
Fatima Conspiracy - Sounds Impossible? Well Read This ...
Posted
by
on Thursday 14.06.2007, 10:56 AM
RTE/ Irish Film Board - Most watched doc ever shown in Ireland
also shown in Australia, USA, Spain
How one Australian helped unearth the world’s best kept secret
In 1981 an Australian hijacked an Irish plane while flying over England. He ordered it diverted to France in order to force the Vatican to reveal the Third Secret of Fatima, purportedly uttered by the Virgin Mary to a group of children in Fatima, Portugal in 1917.
The hijack took place one week before the Feastday of Our Lady of Fatima, the day of the attempted assassination on Pope John Paul II. The Polish Pope did not ignore the coincidence, he put down his survival to the intercession of “the Divine Mother.”
Lawrence James Downey, the Australian hijacker, explains what drove him to this extreme action. He leads us into the apocalyptic world of Fatima’s secrets - the fall of Communism, Church chicanery and a possible end of the world before the millennium.
The Catholic Church finally revealed this mystic last secret of Fatima in June 2000.
http://www.smirsh.com/FinishedProductionsBody.htm+Roscommon+fatima&hl;=en&ct;=clnk&cd;=9≷=uk
What if it's not a hijacked plane this time - but a child hostage?
This links to an area that has already been raided by the Police in relation to the case: Roscommon, Ireland.
Man on Bike - Dutch Newspaper Tip-Off?
Posted
by
on Thursday 14.06.2007, 10:36 AM
See a man on bike. Coming out of his house. Could be town-house or terraces. His bike is very functional looking, not flash. Dark colour. He looks like a young Bernard Hill. Hair is light-to medium blonde (ash blonde?) Squarish features, lightish beard (not stubble, much longer than stubble). He is wearing a black/dark blue top. Jeans. Short jacket or leisure top (soft material). Zipper or buttons. Not a pullover sweatshirt thing. No hood that I can see. He's got an errand to run. Someone has been getting impatient. Wants to speed things up. A determined look in his eye but seems watchful. Not nervous though. Very serious, a little tense. Quite a jowly man, thickset - but not fat. Solid build. He really did look a little like Bernard Hill. This is recently, perhaps even today. If they want further proof - then he'll just have to try it again. He's quite arsed by the lack of attention to the last one.
On another note: just getting something through that links the McCanns and that daytime Trisha show. In the past. Somekind of issue. Lots of people arguing.
Only kidding with the last one. And although a genuine image I get: even I have to admit that the first one could refer to someone re-posting their application for a loan or something silly.
Re: Release of the Dove
Posted
by
on Wednesday 13.06.2007, 09:04 PM
Hey Tasha,
Can't be much of a social life where you live!! Still, you should really try to get out more, or maybe write a novel! Boy, that was a good read lol.
Incoming....incoming
Posted
by
on Wednesday 13.06.2007, 01:02 PM
My little radar is picking up...
tanzania... trisha goddard..
This really is turning into a challenge ...
A.S
Release The Dove
Posted
by tasha rolfe
on Wednesday 13.06.2007, 11:58 AM
Unsure about the involvement of a religious or spiritual cult or organisation? Well okay. It's all just conjecture, but how about this?
Hostage Negotiators were alleged to have been called in early on during the abduction case - and have not been heard of since - but that doesn't mean that they're not there. The cult requests the McCanns embark on an international spiritual and religious campaign under the pretext that they are raising awareness for Madeleine. They request websites, they request blogs, they want funds set up to collect tithes and donations to sustain the McCanns 'pilgrimage' or 'journey of redemption', they want the cooperation of the media who must show Madeleine and her parents in a positive, almost 'saintly' light. Then they get giddy. They start requesting absurd things like Madeleine's eyes being used on Google (just like psychic Uri was used all those years ago), they request that her image be distributed even amoungst the virtual ether using internet programs like 'Second Life', they request huge international events with famous pop-stars, videos shown at football grounds, folks like Becks and Victoria. To them Madeleine will be their Miracle Child: their Immaculate Conception (remember her IVF background? yes, they've even managed to misrepresent that). The truth is they're getting too confident, too empowered and their better judgment is getting the best of them. They probably feel the time is almost 'imminent' - that the universe itself supports their cause. And they're likely to be making no end of references to dates and figures amoungst themselves as if all this was based on some spiritual imperative, a force of Nature, a divine breath: that they are indeed part of a divine plan.
Could be wrong, but it's plausible.
Release the dove!
Another Theory That Came To Me In Dreams
Posted
by tasha rolfe
on Wednesday 13.06.2007, 10:56 AM
Had another dream last night, the first one since the one with the torch, the dark basement and the railway (and the bizarre allusions to the film ‘Freedomland’ – the story of a missing child who is not really missing at all). In the dream my own daughter was lost and whilst people were out searching I asked another little girl where SHE thought my little girl may have wandered off. She told me a 'sand-pit' and 'pool'. At that moment I felt the shock and horror that any parent would feel at the possibility she had wandered off and an accident had happened. But my first thought was that I couldn't accept it. I could not contemplate that this had happened.
When I woke up I remembered the film 'Heavens Gate' - the one with Orlando Bloom - and it reminded me where I might have heard the word 'Christendom' before. But it also reminded me that people used to go on pilgrimages to attone for their own sins. They would set out on the pilgrimage to a shrine in the holy land and elsewhere, would campaign for tithes (which was money donated by people to fund the pilgrimage) and set off on a long and spiritual journey that they hoped would attone (cleanse or redeem them of sin) for some misdeeds they had performed in life. The pilgrimage would usually be a long and spiritual journey. And it might not lead to just one place but to several. It could last weeks, it could last months (the dates June 13th, July13th, August 13th, Sept 13th and Oct 13th are all related to the Fatima Miracles in Portugal – so bear them in mind).
So far I have been trying to piece together lots of lose threads, the great majority of which try to explain the links in this case to Fatima, the Vatican, the Fifth and Final Dogma and important dignitaries like Tony Blair (who is – coincidentally – looking to become a Catholic Deacon at the end of his term – and who is a former member of the Fatima group, the Immaculate Heart of Mary). Even things like Madeleine’s name which derives from the name ‘Magdalene’ has concerned me and then there’s Scotland and Rosslyn Chapel, the Da Vinci Code, the bloodline of Christ, the Knights Templar, Freemasons. It was beginning to sound like a rather dodgy religious-thriller. Then it occurred to me that the people who have become involved in the case are simply responding to these symbols. They have an understanding of religious iconography. Those who have hijacked the case are using it for their own covert agendas (in the same way the UK and the USA hijacked the premise of 9/11 and turned it into an armed crusade against Islam and Iraq). That Blair and Pope Benedict are crawling out of the shadows now is no coincidence: they have seen this as a call to arms: at the very least the promise of decent photo opportunity (people like Clarence Mitchell, Sir Philip Green and Max Clifford have been dragged into it simply because of Blair’s own media and religious agenda).
(Don’t forget that Gerry insists we call her ‘Madeleine’ not Maddie. Which is probably a bit like calling the Magdalene ‘Maggie’ as far as he is concerned.).
Bearing in mind my dreams, here’s two more plausible scenarios. But these are just hypothetical, this may not have happened, it’s only a possibility. In this ‘dream’ Madeleine wanders off for the second time that holiday (yes, the SECOND time) and tragically succumbs to an accident in the swimming pool or elsewhere. In a state of panic and fearing they'd lose their remaining children or would not get a chance to attone for their sins, the McCanns delay telling the truth. In fact they may, for the sake of their own skins and their remaining two children, never tell the truth (Gerry drops hints by saying that they will need this week to 'grieve').
Another option might explain a few more of the threads better. In my dream this time Madeleine wanders off. Gerry finds her in the pool on way back to check the kids at the apartment. He takes her back. He tries to revive her. With no success he calls a friend who helps him arrange his thoughts. And after that they call the Police. And then something else happens in my dream: Portugese Detectivs and Head of the Regional PJ Goncalo Amaral (and friends) hatch a plan: after seeing the McCanns are rich and negligent (which he reads as morally dubious) he decides to extort money out of the McCanns and the friends. If they comply they will not face manslaughter charges (does this explain why Goncalo Amaral was rumoured to be accompanying Gerry back to the UK?). The McCanns and the friends comply agreeing to keep the charade going as long as it takes. But they turn it into a pilgrimage, a worthy crusade, an international child campaign that will attone for their own sins, campaigning for tithes along the way (anyone who contributes tithes is also redeemed on the pilgrimage – or so it’s alleged). Murat and Russian friend - blackmailed into the plot by Officer Amaral because of their links to child pornography - help dispose of the body - but were never involved in the death - as no one was. It was an accident. One would hope.
The other possibility is that she is not dead, but that Madeleine did wander off, that the Police picked her up and Detective Inspector Amaral and Associates (charged recently with crimes relating to another child abduction) proceed along a similar path of extortion and they even drag in a psychic they know from a previous case to help 'Find Madeleine'. Perhaps they really have sold her on to paedophile ring the Spanish Investigator has been telling the Daily Express all about. Eventualy though, they’ll need someone to ‘find her’ – so she can be located efficiently but without risk of capture or direct contact. One psychic in particular is willing to collude barters for some other stuff too (the others may offer support, but are reluctant to get involved). It's not money they want necessarily - but to further some elaborate spiritual crusade). If the McCanns and friends don't comply they will be charged with criminal negligence and the there is the threat of the McCanns losing their remaining children – and the friends, their reputation in tatters – perhaps even accessories in a plan to cover up a crime). They’re basically just justifying their greed and appetite for fame and acceptance by giving it an altruistic, noble bent. They’re sick and they probably know it.
This might explain why a number of psychics were requested to come to Portugal and why the friends and the McCanns were all taken away and questioned at length for hours and hours - until they had all agreed on a plan that would suit everyone. The first plan would be to convince the media that Madeleine had been abducted from the room and that she was taken out of the country and that a child porn ring was involved (and might, given that you can’t trust even high ranking state officials in Portugal. Has anybody followed up the story of the high-ranking politicians caught up in the sex abuse at an Orphanage in Lisbon?
On the otherhand, if Madeleine isn't alive, the Police Officer may have simply recruited people like the Psychic and his or her spiritual crew of misfits to set them up. He may have realised that he would never get Madeleine back off the paedophile ring and had to think of a way to get other people involved. Someone who was or had been in some way connected to a religious cult at sometime in their lives.
End game - Madeleine comes back a miracle child (plan includes all the religious stuff etc, as it has to please everyone's interests and personal objectives)
The case starts off simple, escalates and then gets going like a runaway train with everybody grabbing a piece of the action.
Not quite as imaginative - but more plausible to any grand political and religious conspiracy.
Still sounds too conspiracy oriented? Well there are two conspiracies here - the evil official conspiracy hatched by a paedophile ring to abduct from an apartment or a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and hijack it for nefarious political and moral gain.
Sound familiar?
Let's get Madeleine back. But let's start asking the right questions.
susie
Posted
by
on Tuesday 12.06.2007, 07:36 PM
I believe the person that was involved lives in a poor country,it's cold and very remote.
I couldn't see the man's face but he was an older man 50+ i can see lots of blue light blue material or blankets pegged up around an area of trees and he seemed to be living in the trees but in the distance there was a derelict farm type building.A disused building it was along a muddy track quite high up and very remote.
The colour blue keeps coming to me but i don't know why?
I couldn't see Madeleine and this man would not show his face but he is involved.
I have tried to look deeper into it but i can't get no more just those blue blankets again.
susie
RE: ne of Our Lady of Banneux - Banneux, Belgium
Posted
by
on Sunday 3.06.2007, 02:03 PM
Thank heavens for Google maps. The Shrine at Banneux in Belgium is actually a mere 7 mins away from the Place Cathédrale where Madeleine was allegedly spotted. Bearing in mind that the first sighting of Madeleine a few days after the abduction at a place just east of the Fatima Shrine in Portugal - it does see strange. Are the authorities interested in the new sighting in Belgium? The witness was allegedly met with the response that the Police (PJ) were NOT even considering the idea that Madeleine was in Northern Europe at all. But this begs the question: why are Kate and Gerry McCann visiting Berlin and Amsterdam if they do not think she is in Northern Europe? Do they suspect something the Police don't? Had the McCanns been considering adoption of Madeleine? Been approached by anybody beforehand then got cold feet only for the speculative parents to snatch her anyway? (Kate ran into the dinner party screaming 'They've Taken Her' - but it gets worse: Madeleine is reported to have wandered off/gone missing once already during that holiday and yet Kate and Gerry McCann insist that when they first came back to the apartment to find her missing they knew immediately she had been taken. They said in last weeks interview that they didn't think for a minute that she had wandered off. Having wandered off already during the holiday, I would have thought this would have been their first thought and only after exhausting that idea would they begin to feel she had been abducted (remember, it was the patio doors that were open. There were no signs of a break-in).
And for real conspiracy/Dan Bown buffs has anyone checked out connections to the 'final Marian Fifth Dogma'? - a debate currently rattling through the corridors of power in the Vatican? This prophecy started in Amsterdam, of all places, at The Lady Of All Nations Shrine. And Amsterdam is where the McCanns are allegedly heading this week.
The film Freedomland and Something Fairly Spooky
Posted
by
on Sunday 3.06.2007, 12:44 PM
Just following up a post I made a few weeks ago with a series of spooky coincidences in the 'abduction' thriller, 'Freedomland' - and I'll start by again saying that I'm really not sure I believe in a supernatural explanation for 'visions'. I prefer to think they might be explained by our sub-conscious minds cross-referncing a huge database of information we take in on a day to day basis, following patterns and making connections between things that our conscious mind is ordinarily too busy to deal with. So when a few weeks ago I said I 'had a vision' of a dark basement/cellar with water dripping off the walls and torches being flashed at a figure ' it looks like I may have 'seen' the denoument scene of the film 'Freedonland' (2006) starring Samuel Lee Jackson. If anyone who knows the film, they will know it is about a mother whose child has an accident whilst she has left the child on it's own to spend sometime with her boyfriend in another appartment. The boy dies after drinking too much cough-syrup, the mother comes back finds the boy and the boyfriend helps dispose of the body. She then concocts a story about a hoodlum from the ghetto car-jacking her and abducting the child. In the film we don't know about the truth until this scene at an abandoned children's orphanage - when one of the other mothers persudes the mother to tell the truth. Up until this point the whole city (and the viewer) is led to beleive the child has been abducted (until Jackson has his suspicions). The 'vision' I had two weeks ago matched almost exactly the scene in the movie where the mother visits the disused orphanage. The spooky thing is, I had no prior knoweldge of this film until my wife brought it back from the rental shop last night (we live in the remote highlands and don't get much of a choice when it comes to movies, nor speak to mnay folk who do). As spooked as my wife was to see the scene I had described for her a few weeks earlier, she then rightly pointed out that the scene was a fairly iconic sort of scene in such a movie. On the otherhand, what I saw was slightly different. My version had the figure of a child in it, wrapped/clothed in somekind of green-mack or green (heavy duty) refuse sack with a little blonde hair poking out of the top.
But it make me think this: have the McCanns or any of the McCann party rented this film in recent months?
I'm still concerned that the friend of the McCanns who was 'LATE' (very late) for the dinner party that night and who provided the description of the man carrying a child could have been in a position to have been helping out at the scene of an accident long before 9.30. On the otherhand, there may not have been an accident (or a dead child) at all. Kate McCann keeps mentioning that she thinks Madeleine is with a family who just desperately wants a child. What if she actually KNOWS Madeleine IS with such a couple and that the arrangements that night allowed for the friend to do all transport/handover arrangments whilst the McCanns prepared for their dinner-party and (subsequent alibi). When was the last time Madeleine was seen by witnesses other than the McCanns or McCanns friends at the apartment. It is entirely possible that something happened well before 9.30 if a number of people are involved. Kate and Gerry were not expecting to have three children this quickly (which is often the case with IVF) and considered the children a miracle. On the otherhand she is a devout Catholic who went against the better wishes of the church by seeking IVF. Has her guilt at other people not being able to have children driven Kate McCann to handing over her one of her 'miracle' children to another couple? On TV the couple have made no direct appeals to the camera like so many parents do in this situation and said something like 'If the kidnapper is watching this, please let us have Madeleine back'. Perhaps they remember all the tearful mock press-conferences were the actual perpetrator has cried for 'help in finding the person' whi has done this. Perhaps they felt disgusted by such a spectacle in the past and are reluctant to repeat the same thing for the cameras themselves. I just find the 'orphanage dream' and the abduction theme kind of spooky, that's all.
Trips to the Vatican, Amsterdam and Berlin - it just doesn't add up to me. It seems like a mission of some other sort - as if the parents are using the oppotunity for some other kind of 'awareness raising'. The Police have already stated that they are not looking in Northern Europe - so why are they heading around all these places. Sounds like they're on some weird, church-endorsed pilgrimage. What did they hope to achieve by visiting the Pope? It's bonkers..
Want to help
Posted
by
on Saturday 2.06.2007, 06:23 PM
la radeau - this word popped into my head when focusing all my thoughts on madeleine. I don't speak French but when I looked it up, it translated as 'raft' - not sure what relevance, if any, this is. Perhaps she has been taken over water, or she is near an area where there is water or rafting, or indeed an area/place/house is named this?
Catholic Connection
Posted
by
on Saturday 2.06.2007, 09:35 AM
If the abductors are following the trail of the 20th Century Marian Apparitions (sounds preposterous tho) the next Vatican APPROVED apparition after Belgium is the one in Amsterdam in the mid-40s (Amsterdam, Holland Ida Peerdeman The Lady of All Nations). Would this be where they are heading? I'm actually not sure if this one was approved by the Vatican - but this could be the point of the whole thing. Extremists/Fundamentalists could be trying to draw the worlds's attention to a. the Marian Messages (very apocalyptic) b. trying to get an unapproved sighting/shrine reconsidered by the Vatican. c. looking to provide Dan Brown/Tom Hanks with his next bestseller.
People with time on their hands might want to look at which Shrine/Apparition was turned down (refused approval) by the Vatican.
There's a LOT of in fighting between the Fatima cult follwers and the Vatican - and daggers have indeed been drawn in recent months - not least by the Bishops of Fatima who have tried to retain administrative control of the multi-million pound generating shrine in Portugal.
Food for thought.
Shrine of Our Lady of Banneux - Banneux, Belgium
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by
on Friday 1.06.2007, 11:23 PM
News has it that there is an alleged sighting of Madeleine in Leige Belgium. If the Fatima Catholic connection is still worth following, there's a Shrine of Our Lady of Banneux in Banneux, Belgium, just outside of Liege. 15 years after the Fatima message, there was another one at Catholic Apparitions of Mary at Beauraing, Belgium:
see
http://www.apparitions.org/beau.html
for further details.
Vision
Half the people on the coach suspect nothing's wrong, hidden somehow, above heads perhaps, a black girl too and this morning at dawn they were all '4 hours from the Spanish border, heading North into France'.......at this spot or thereabouts, by the roadside, is an old airport/office block-style complex of buildings, again some people are in on it all but others are not. There's lots of dull, grey, plasticy, fascia/soffit boards right the way around this building, looks to be single story. It's a workplace or community of somesort, to deal with travel and transit...........Maddie is alive and calling out still on the coach, she's only semi-concerned, another older girl (18/19) with a very hi-tech mobile fone is involved, messages are sent using this fone, messages written in detailed, odd pictures and codes. This vision came to me very vivid at dawn this moring and I have been right before. Sorry there's no name of the place in Spain, I looked at the map on waking and got nothing, all I can say is this place is in the interior, flat not mountainous and has an unpronouncable name which is something like 'Meubles', the Spanish word for 'furniture', that's all I'm getting. Anyone else seen this area too. The '4 hours from the Spanish border' was very strong as was the coach and buildings at the roadside?
Tom
Check 10 Downing Street . I Have a Queer Feeling.
If the PJ are checking up on psychic leads in the hope they're being slipped a tip-off from the abductor, perhaps the first point of call has to 10 Downing Street. The Madeleine abduction has allowed Mr Blair unhfettered access to a successful 'farewell tour'. I'm assuming MI6 anticipated an increase in terrorist activity leading up to his resignation this month and thought nothing of setting up a real headline grabber of their own as a premptive strike. The kidnappings in Baghdad and the abduction of Alan Johnston (which has been rattling on forever without so much as a handshake from Gordon Brown, nevermind a kiss from the Pope) are unlikely to sully the next few weeks headlines so long as there are 'breakthroughs' and 'developments' on the McCann case to grab them at a minute's notice. I had this vision: I saw a big fat tub of lard rubbing his hands in front of a door with a number 10 on it - and inside there was a scheming, murderous lech' packing his sunta n lotion, his shorts and a big whopping Catholic crucifix.' Insiders say Tony is going to do with the Vatican what he did with the Labour party in '97. Not New Labour, this time, but 'New God'. And again, he's making it in his own image.
Oh look - a kangaroo
Posted
by soph c
on Thursday 31.05.2007, 08:10 PM
Just posting to prove that anybody can post any fantastical story they feel like in the comments section of this website.
I am a penguin. I live on the top of Mount Fiji and I only eat cabbages.
Look! It must be true! There really is a cabbage-eating penguin living on Mount Fiji. It's obviously a fact because it appears in the comments section of an obscure website.
Get That Bloody Cat To Forensics
Posted
by
on Wednesday 30.05.2007, 12:30 AM
Somebody take that cat into forenics before it's cleaned. I tell you: the CAT is out there!
McCann Friend Was LATE for Dinner Party and Outside The Apartment at 9.30pm
Posted
by
on Tuesday 29.05.2007, 10:25 AM
Coming back to the claim that it was someone the McCanns knew that took Madeleine. Did anybody know that the friend of the McCanns who provided the new witness account of a man carrying a child was actually LATE for the dinner party with the McCanns that night? By her own admission this puts the woman at the crime-scene at 9.30pm (ref. The Times) - the time she alleges to have seen the man outside the McCanns apartment with a child wrapped in a blanket and walking 'hurriedly/not-so-hurriedly away'.
The woman admits that she TOO was outside the McCanns apartment at this time and we have only her word that she saw a man carrying a child. Logically, she should be the prime suspect as she is the only person interviewed who puts herself at the crime-scene at the time Madeleine was abducted. It shouldn't take the world's Police force to work out she could be working with an accomplice - that it was she who could have taken Madeleine from her bed (knowing the movements of the McCanns would help and handed her to the man herself. If this is the case, then the alleged 'witness account' serves a number of functions: a. if someone else has seen the two in the same area outside the apartment - she just says she was just passing at the same time the abducter was making his getaway. b. it deflects all suspicions from herself c. when the UK phone experts who've flown out today start finding out that her mobile was used just a few feet away from the apartment at the time Madeleine was abducted (perhaps to contact either the McCanns at the dinner party, another friend at the dinner party or her accomplice) then she has a ready-made alibi - and also something useful (like the witness account) to back it up. It would be interesting to see if this 'friend' was contacting the McCann at the dinner party or someone else at the dinner party between 9.00pm and 9.30pm? The friend could have used her mobile to check if the coast was likely to be clear and the McCanns were not back at the apartment looking in on the children. Here's a possible exchange:
1. The friend is already at the Mark Warner complex and at approx 9.15pm phones the dinner party to say she'll be a little late. If she doesn't phone the McCanns directly she phones someone who is likely to be sitting at their table and asks if they are there (giving the impression she is asking 'has everyone turned up yet? who's there? who's that laughing? Can I have a word with Kate or Gerry' Do they want me to look in on the children? 'No', comes the answer, 'they've just checked and they're alright'). She says she's just calling to say she'll be a little late but that's she's almost there. Or she texts.
2. The friend determines that there is nobody at the apartment (she may have texted most of the party to check where they are too during the previous few hours). She enters the apartment through the patio doors, collects Madeleine (who recognises the friend and is not alarmed. The other children are not disturbed because she Madeleine is not upset. Who knows, the friend may have even applied a small sedative to Madeleine's drink earlier in the day) and hands her to her accomplice.
3. The two go separately outside the apartment. First the friend to check the coast is clear and secondly her accomplice ('the man seen carrying the child').
4. The friend arrives at the dinner party and half-an-hour later is still at the party when Kate arrives back and screams out, 'They've taken her!'.
Has the woman come into contact with Murat whilst in England? How long has she known the McCanns? Is she in a position like the McCanns to have access to mild sedatives? Does she have any starnge sexual proclivities like the alleged 'swinger' party she is with?
Whatever the case, both the McCanns and the 'friend' were prepared to go to court to get the 'detailed description' released. Why? My guess is that one or all of them knew the UK Phone experts were due to fly out this week and put this lady's mobile phone in use outside or near the apartment at the time Madeleine was abducted - and someone is keen to justify that location well in advance of news getting out to the press.
And if you don't think 'friends' can do anything like this, here's alittle story. At university I was living in a house with a friend who was doing a PHD at the local University. A well respected man, he was no stranger to flying out to places like Boston in the US to conduct lectures and had a solid and stable circle of friends and his own tutor group. Suddenly, after a number of years things start dissappearing. First it's money, then it's cheques, then it's credit-cards, then it's personal items like my glasses and address books etc. After a few months I call the police. They tell me it's most likely someone I know, someone most likely in the house. I tell them that's not possible. There's a number of unsavoury people around the neighboorhood, even next door. Perhaps they are getting in when the door is open - watching to see us leave to pop to the corner shop or something. The Policeman leaves. Things continue to go missing and both myself and my friend conduct vigils at night, staying in the room downstairs to see if anyone comes into the house whilst we're usually sleeping. Nothing happens. Eventually at my wits end I find out where the credit cards have been used and go to the shops themselves for more information. They suggest I'll have to look at the CTV footage - but that could take weeks. I go back to my house and organise a drink at a pub. I have my suspicions that some mutual friends might be responsible. We haven't known them very long and ask my house-mates if they don't mind me looking at the CTV footage (as once I request it, it must become a criminal investigation). I ask them them if they have anything to hide or be anxious about finding on the tape. Both say to go and have a look at the footage, insisting it is the best thing to do. As one of my friends leaves for home, my best friend and I decide to go for an Indian meal. After awhile, I ask my friend again if I should request CTV footage. This time he goes quiet and then hits me with a bombshell. The man I've known for years, who's been the pillar of the community type, who's been up the pub with me for the best part of every night for 3 years, who loaned me money, met my family, stayed up through the night 'thief' vigils tunes out to be the one who's been stealing all these things. The very same man who treats us to Rainbow Trout breakfasts and the most expensive Chardonnay is by turns a meticulous thief. In the morning he admits that it was simply down to jealously. I was the guy in the rock band, I was the guy attracting the interests of a girl that he was actually smitten with, but was not confident enough to approach himself. And by his own admission he became obsessive. He didn't hate me, he didn't dislike my company. He just wanted something he couldn't have. And he was prepared to go to any lengths to see me leave and see me broken.
So if you don't think it's possible. Think again....
Uncle?
Posted
by
on Monday 28.05.2007, 09:43 AM
If it's the Ltd company and the setting up at funds (that will no doubt go into millions) that is the issue, perhaps the Police should look more closely at the child's Uncle. It's actually him who's set it up. Best to find out who are the company directors and company secretary. If she turns up in a month or two's time - there'd be a LOT of money still left in that account. Perhaps all those hard-hearted parents in the McCann party are all in on the scam. And hey: what if Madeleine turns up just as Tony Blair leaves office? The big national high is likely to support his legacy. Everybody will be feeling so relieved that we'll all be there patting him on the shoulder as he leaves. He'll probably even demand a photo-opportunity with the McCanns. All wearing new flash, expensive gear, naturally. Any loon who doesn't at least entertain the idea that psychic activity exists is probably the same kind of lunatic that closed his mind to space-travel and compact discs. You shouldn't need to believe either way - if simply have to NOT believe, it's likely that you have a psychological profile that cannot deal with upset to it's precarious world-view.
No such thing as psychics
Posted
by
on Monday 28.05.2007, 01:05 AM
All psychics wishing to help should be rigourosly tested of their "abilities" beforehand.Then when it is found they haven't got any
teh police can be left to continue their work untroubled by publicity seeking weirdos who live in a fantasy land.
Possible info
Posted
by
on Sunday 27.05.2007, 09:10 PM
I don't consider myself a psychic and would hate to waste valuable police time etc but I have had a few experiences where I've correctly located missing things or people in the past. Unfortunately I've had nothing come to me about this case but I decided to scan a map of portugal to see if anything came to me during the first week of Maddie's disappearance. I felt drawn towards Sintra, Portugal and felt there was a boat connection or a connection with fish or sea shells. I don't know if that could be of any use to anyone but anyone near the area could possibly keep an extra vigilant lookout.
Is Tony Blair Behind It All?
Posted
by
on Sunday 27.05.2007, 07:08 PM
Swinger parties? Spin-doctoring? Inconsistencies with their stories? The Police being misled? Conversions to Catholicism? Meetings with the Pope? The protective arm of Gordon Brown? Who is the McCann's chief press officer, Tony Blair? Just as Tony Blair is about to make an important announcement about his conversion to the Catholic faith, a frenzy of media activity surrounding this flagging orthodoxy literally explodes in our faces. If I didn't know any better, I'd think Tony Blair and his advisors have dreamt up this whole thing to make his relgious entrance all the more profound. A baptism of fire, indeed. He's probably intent on bagging the Papacy for that matter. Watch this space.
Madeleine McCann Pyschic Investigators - Christendom and Farm
Posted
by
on Sunday 27.05.2007, 12:58 PM
Coming back to the earlier pyschic suggestion that Madeleien was located at a 'farm' in 'Christendom' (which could be anywhere in either Spain or Portugal or Christian europe if taken in its broadest sense). The ancient capital of 'Christendom' or 'Byzantium' as it was known was Constantinople - which is now Istanbul. I read one other report where a number of pychics were told to think of a map of the world and told to think Madeleine and they pointed (seprately) to the area immediately around Romania and Turkey. A coicidence perhaps, but Istanbul is in this area too. On the otherhand, Rome is the modern capital of Christendom. I'm guessing we may need something more specific!
McCann Parents - Suspicious Behaviour
Posted
by
on Saturday 26.05.2007, 09:44 PM
There's plenty more on the McCann parent's suspicious behaviour to be found here too:
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:x2KRW6V7JngJ:crimeblog.us/%3Fp%3D429+madeleine+mccann+abduction+suspicious&hl;=en&ct;=clnk&cd;=4
Have 'remote viewers' been able to establish a link between Murat's bizarre love triangle - his estranged wife- and the McCann's alleged 'swingers parties'? Is it possible Murat has come into contact with the McCanns whilst in England AT such a party? I'm not sure what I'd prfer to believe in all honesty. To think the poor child is in danger is horrid - to think she may have parents like this is almost too terrible to consider too. And I suppose if we think that, someone else might have acted on those fears before us and taken her away. But this really is ALL just speculation. Give the Police a chance. Let's just hope she turns up and we can deal with all this then.
Also: Has the Police thought to do forensics on the teddy bear/cat Kate insists on holding? It is quite possible that 'swingers' have other, more frightening proclivities? (I've even heard stories of some sick parents letting their children participate in sick games with even sicker couples). My intitial gut feeling was that Madeleine was being held by someone who she knew - but did not always feel comfortable with. Someone who may be a source of tension in the family and who she may have been told to distrust (someone has asked the question why hasn't Kate's mother been out to see her daughter in Portugal? Are they estranged in any way? What did Gerry McCann find so necessary to do back in England for one day? What was so urgent? I was under the impression they mentioned they were looking for private investigators? When he gets back he says he's changed his mind? Could remote viewers also concentrate on the link some psychic has made to an important 'media figure' involved? This might explain the swift and expert PR guidance the McCanns have obviously received in dealing with the media so quickly and so professionally?)
Honestly, I hope all this speculation is unfounded - but questions do need to be asked and things need to be done. There is a very frightened little girl out there whatever the truth is about the exact circumstances.
Other Possiblities
Posted
by
on Saturday 26.05.2007, 09:24 AM
Sticking my neck out on this one, but after watching the McCanns use their Sky and BBC time to deflect criticism of their decision to leave Madeleine alone on several occasions rather than offer credible and useful information on how people can better help the investigation: ‘at worst we were naïve’ they insist. No at ‘worst’ they are ‘malicious and irresponsible parents who cared more about their social lives than they did about the welfare of their children and it’s debatable whether they should have been assisted in having children using IVF i the first place.’. At ‘best’ they were ‘naïve’.
So consider if you will an alternate scenario that may tie all these threads together: that the McCanns may be directly involved in this pitiful spectacle – and could have even have involved the likes of Murat and Sergey Malinka to act as go-betweens between themselves and the ‘human-traffickers’ – who may simply be involved in selling Madeleine to people who were prepared to spend thousands to have children themselves. Why?
1. The McCanns had recently bought a £600,000 pound house. Who knows, recent interest rates rises could have forced them into trouble. Perhaps they foresaw problems in coping with three children. They were expecting one miracle child, not three. As a Catholic, Kate McCann could justify this to herself with reference to the ‘Fatima Miracle’. The Holy Mother’s message makes reference to ‘personal sacrifice’, to ‘giving something up to God’. The Vatican even suggests the children who witnessed the miracle were requested by the Virgin Mother to ‘sacrifice themselves’. And as a matter of fact, they died a few years after the apparition. As a Catholic that had used IVF treatment – she may have even viewed herself as having sinned (IVF treatment is rejected by the Catholic Church: it alleges it goes against God’s natural wishes – they feel the same about Abortion). Giving up a child may have offered some redemptive value. Perhaps those involved may have even convinced her of this. It’s still possible that all this has been carried out with the cooperation of an ‘informal’ Catholic Organisation (of which there are many: The Blue Army Of The Shrine of the Immaculate Heart Of Mary is just one ‘Fatima Miracle’ related – and fairly unorthodox – religious group – but there are dozens (much more suspect) religious groups – some of which have been formally rejected by the Vatican and pursued by Governments for malpractice and abuse. The Blue Army Of The Shrine of the Immaculate Heart Of Mary, however, appears to be a legitimate, if slightly extremist group itself, and I am just using them as an example. I find it difficult to believe Kate would not be aware that the 90th Fatima Anniversary was taking place in the few weeks the family was in Portugal. Had they visited the shrine prior to Madeleine going missing? If not, why not? It’s one of the most sacred days on the Catholic calendar. Or did they know they had more time later to go.
2. Gerry Mcann’s ‘Friendsreunited’ entry makes asks if ‘anyone is up for babysitting?’ on news telling of their new arrivals. Innocuous perhaps, but rather sinister given the circumstances now and perhaps indicating how Gerry and Kate may not want to compromise their lifestyles too much by staying in every night (and why say something like this when they insist that at home they would not trust anyone to babysit the children (or, more likely, be able to afford it). And yet here we have people who are so protective about their children that they refuse to consider babysitters yet leave their three infants alone in their suite unattended for several nights of the week in a place that is not even their home.
3. The McCanns are alleged to have chosen a resort because it had great child facilities and baby-sitting/listening opportunities. So why did they purposely not use them? (Hotel staff confirmed that the couple and their friends took several meals at the pool while Madeleine and her siblings slept alone in the hotel room.Why would they specifically look for a hotel with child services and then not use them???). Gerry is a consultant, his Wife is a GP (due to return to work part-time). Surely they had the money to use child-care?
4. The patio-doors were left open. This is the real hurdle we have to jump. Why would anyone leave the patio doors open for a child of four to wander out of and go astray? And with a pool in the complex area? If myself and my wife get so much as pond in the places we rent we almost chain ourselves to the children.
5. Why insist on such a large group of people to go with? It certainly provides a lot of witness testimonies with regard to your actions that night. Why go with such a large party to such a large family resort that has all the child facilities under the sun (which they’re only prepared to use during the day, apparently – they don’t mind strangers looking after them in the day – and yes the children spent much of the holiday in the Mark Warner child-care during the day – as the two twins are even now). My gut feeling is that the large party the McCanns would present ideal witnesses, several people who would be able to furbish them with excellent witness testimonies and alibis.
6. Both the McCanns and Robert Murat were unsually swift in seeking to exploit both the media and huge legal teams. Within 5 days of Madeleine going missing, the McCanns – instead of tearing their hair-out and seeking medical treatment for shock – were setting up a Ltd company to handle the huge ‘charitable funds’ they envisaged coming their way. If they’d done this 6 weeks later I’d have been suspicious – but this was only 5-6 days after Madeleine had gone missing. And then there’s Robert Murat – who’s clued up and level –headed enough (not to mention to so damned confident enough) that he personally calls media mogul Max Clifford to represent him when he sells his story. All of them seem unusually well prepared and rehearsed for an event that is alleged to have come out of the blue. Media savvy doesn’t even come into it.
7. Robert Murat acts as translator for the McCann’s (alleged) and the Police (fact). He is alleged to have had Sergey Malinka clear the hard-drive of his computer. It is alleged the material erased may be pornographic in nature. What if it is not pornographic – what if it simply connects him to a. The McCanns. b. the buyers/consortium/religious group.
8. The McCanns set up a Ltd Company not a charity. This could be vital, especially if the McCann’s have been in receipt of a large sum of money recently. What better way than to launder it than through a ‘fund’? Or the gift of a generous but anonymous donor? Why was charity not set up?
9. Even with one child abducted Gerry and Kate McCann continue to use the crèche facilities at Mark Warner for up to several hours a day – and Kate continues to manage it out for her daily jog. And by the look of it, she even manages to get a few hours in the sun.
10. The only people known to have seen Madeleine in those few hours (to my knowledge at least) are the McCanns. We have only their testimonies that Madeleine was in her bed during those hours they were at the restaurant? What if Madeleine had ‘disappeared’ well before 10.00pm as reported? This would allow the ‘abductors’ an opportunity to get her out of the country even before they finished their meal (perhaps even to Morocco – especially given that the Russian IT expert Sergey Malinka is involved in a company that specialises in boat trips to the Mediterranean and North Africa. Morocco is in North Africa.)
11. The police really ought to be look for connections not to paedophile rings but to possible religious communities and organisations. Anything is possible. Even some self-righteous nut who’s taken Madeleine simply because they’ve taken offence to the pair’s damning behaviour with their children. A Catholic couple who yearn for several years to have children –undergo IVF treatment against the wishes of their church – and are then prepared to act in such a cruel and selfish way (Madeleine is alleged to have been heard crying for her Father a number of times whilst they were out of the suite on earlier occasions). Perhaps someone – however wretched and misguided themselves simply thought enough was enough.
This is not going to be a popular post – but the possibility should at least be entertained. Everybody wants Madeleine back - whatever the outcome.
reiki for maddy
Posted
by
on Friday 25.05.2007, 10:21 PM
I have sent reiki healing to Maddy and posted on healing forums for light workers to send healing for the situation and for Maddy. I sense that she is 'under their noses' This is the information pasted to me from spirit guides.
Madeleine McCann - search
I have been watching some of the Reality shows on pyschic detectives, I am convinced that they are effective and urge the relevant authorities to enlist the help of these gifted people. Meanwhile, hopefully some of them are able to contact the family direct with their findings. Praying for Madeleine's safe return. God Bless her!
Fatima Shrine in Ramabanta, Lesotho and Our Lady of Light Church in Praia de Luz, Portugal
Final word from me. Could there be any connection between the Our Lady of Light Church in Praia de Luz (attended by the McCanns during their stay in Portugal) and the Fatima Mission Cathloic Church in Ramabanta, Lesotho? In my expeience these churches are often visited by missionaries raising awareness for missions in Europe and Africa in particular. Has there been any visits from the Fatima Mission in Ramabanta, Lesotho? (the 'remote viewer makes a mention of a place called 'Mak?????ba'. Could this be a mishandling of the word 'Ramabanta'?).
Shrine of Fatima at Lesotho and The Lady Of All Nations, Amsterdam: Another Coincidence
Posted
by
on Thursday 24.05.2007, 08:29 PM
Following up on the 'remote viwer' (http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann) and the connection that was made earlier to Lesotho's Shrine and to the Shrine Of Fatima in Portugal. It seems interesting to note that the McCanns spent the few years of Madeleine's life in Amsterdam - the site of the 'Lady Of All Nations' apparitions, generally regarded by Catholics as the follow-up to the 'Fatima' event in Portugal (the Virgin Mary appearing to three shepherd children and revealing three secrets). The remote viewer in the 'Lesotho' report mentioned that they thought Madeleine was with someone on her mother's side of the family. Kate McCann has been a practising Catholic for years. Her husband's faith has been renewed only recently since Madeleine's disappearence.
Here's a couple of interesting thoughts:
1. In her visitations Mary drew a line under the 'de-Christianizing' of Portugal, indeed the world, through forces such as Communism and Nazi-Germany (I know, it sounds very political for the holy mother - but that's what is reported by the Vatican).
2. Catholic Portugal has endured increasing tension with its increasingly popular Socialist Government and Catholic fundamentalists have reacted in a fairly apocalyptic manner to the threat and 'de-Christianizing' it poses.
3. As recently as April 2007 the Socialist government incensed both the Vatican and the vast majority Catholic fundamentalists by forcing a bill through parliament that permit unqualified abortion access up to the 10th week of pregnancy. Up until this point Portugal had one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the European Union.
4. The 90th Anniversary of the Fatima Miracle was on May 13th - a week after Madeleine went missing. 400, 000 pilgrims visited the Fatima shrine in Portugal that weekend - far in excess of previous years and whose swollen numbers attracted the attention of the world (swelled no doubt too by media interest in the abduction) and feelings at the moment (in view of the recent and unpopular abortion bill) have a fairly 'apocalyptic' overtone.
5. Both the Fatima Miracle and the Lady Of All Nations' miracle in Amsterdam emphasise the practise of personal sacrifice and of notions of perfect 'motherhood'.
6. Has Kate McCann ever been approached by members of the fatima cult? Does she have any family members or friends involved in the Catholic minsitry in ANY of these places?
Some notes, quotes and links below:
THE LADY OF ALL NATIONS
Sacrifice and offering up "all that the Good Lord sends you" for sinners is emphasized throughout the messages of Fatima.
There are many references to 'the Cross of sacrifice'. Sacrifice is said to have a true redemptive value.
On mothers:
'the story of Fatima lives on in our hearts because of the hope it offers not just for ourselves but for the whole of God's world - the hope of love and peace in this world through a most caring and loving Mother's heart.'
http://www.circleofprayer.com/theladyofallnations.html
http://www.ladyofallnations.org/fatima.htm
Another 'miracle' may even serve (however deluded) a politcal objective in this hugely volatile (and corrupt) country. On the otherhand, it may just offer somekind of redemptive value to just a few religious nuts.
RE: Madeleine Mccann in Lesotho?
Posted
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on Thursday 24.05.2007, 02:22 PM
Just been having a look online to see if I can tie any of the threads that we've got so far (if they are threads at all - and no just delusions - I suppose, if you look hard enough you can see patterns in anything). The person quoting the Lesotho connection (with Madeleine with a Minister in South Africa) might be onto something as there is (coincidentally?) a Fatima Mission Catholic Church in Ramabanta, a village in Central Lesotho. Anybody following the McCanns story will know that yesterday the McCanns visited the Fatima shrine in Portugal (scene of the 1910 Marian apparitions). 400,000 fundamental Catholics descended on the shrine on it's 90th Anniversay last weekend - and there a good number of cults and sects build around the 'Fatima Miracles'. Strangely, there is also a Fatima Shrine in Ramabanta, Lesotho. I'm still going on the words 'Christendom' and 'Farm'. It you squint hard enough. There is also a Fatima Mission Catholic Church at Ramabanta. Ramabanta is a trading centre and travllers spot so it's bound to have sound travel routes. Of course, It would be spooky to find out there was a 'disused railway' in the area.
some links below.
Fatima Shrine in Ramabanta
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=3152
Ramabanta
http://www.placenamesa.com/ramabant.htm
RE Thanks Chris
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on Thursday 24.05.2007, 01:03 PM
That was thanks for NOT laughing me out of the forum. There'a a typo in thethe last message. Alan
Thanks Chris
Thanks to Chris for laughing me out of the comments area (I'm not Michael Sylvester btw: I put my initials in the 'Name' field and it seems seems to have entered Michael Sylvester. I'm Alan). Have to admit I've been reluctant to think as much about it as I was. The last experience with the 'trains' and the 'torch' was pretty scary. There always seems to be something dark and sinister in the room when I get these 'do's' - and although in the cold light of day it seems ridiculous, in the early hours of the morning - it kind of freaks me out. I'm not sure about the Morroco thing. I did have a look online - and I found that the Russian guy associated with Robert Murat is involved in a business venture that does boat-trips to and from the coast of North Africa (not very away at all). I also checked out the phrase 'disused railway' on Google after I'd 'seen' the 1940s style disused trains and carriages and found that there is sceneic walking route from Vila Real, Portugal to Lepe, Spain. Most of the trail is along a disused railway line. Looking at a map suggests that one end of it is not far from where Madeleine was taken. Murat (as a property heir) is likely to have properties in this particular picturesque region. Why aren't other properties being searched? I am convinced I saw a cellar/basement/ - something underground at least - but like I say - I could be daydreaming the whole thing anyway. At thme moment I\'m sleeping better and nothing is coming at me. It was interesting to see someone else had come up with the word 'farm' though. I have no idea where the word 'Christendom' comes from, but I later found out it pretty much refers to Catholic Spain (in the main - but indeed all of Catholic Europe). It's a weird word, not one I use (the only word it sounded like was 'Missenden' - which is a village in Bucks, England! My only real feeling is on the Catholic association. And with May being the Fatima period (and 90th anniversary) I was wondering if some religious nuts could be involved. At least my geography and history has improved.
Madeleine Mccann in Lesotho? Some Clairvoyant Observations
There are a series of clairvoyant remote viewing observations here:
http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann
There is hope ... that she is still alive and will be returned alive
where is Madeleine?
I keep getting Barcelona...But I don't want to lead the police on the wrong track. I see a dingy back alley road with a sign nearby, or billboard showing a woman in a dress with sequinned belt...perhaps advertising for Zara or something? At first I see Madeleine in a beautiful cheerful green kitchen with yellow detail, some kind of wooden sun hanging on the wall. There is a friendly woman around who wants to keep her, but then she is taken away to this other place in or near Barcelona. I feel there is a woman around her as well as two men. She is in this tiny room on a bed in a corner. She is well but not happy and someone keeps coming in the room to haunt her. She thinks he's a ghost but his name is Jerry. He is going to cut her hair very short and dye it black,if he hasn't already. The woman wants to see her but is not allowed to. I get the surname Pax...something or Paxton...Madeleine sits on the bed all day and watches the door. She has one toy to play with, but doesn't like it, it is very hard and not soft. the woman is a smoker and there is some reference to cigarettes, perhaps a pile of stubs outside? I see a purple fence or purple paint around the outside of the place where Madeleine is in. ..the numberr 37 come up also. this place is part residential, part industrial and there is a major road nearby.
I do psychic work, and feel compelled to post this, just in case...
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on Tuesday 22.05.2007, 08:20 AM
WHY DONT YOU GET WORLD REKNOWN PSYCHIC SYLVIA BROWNE FROM THE U S A
Catherine
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on Tuesday 22.05.2007, 03:32 AM
I was very impressed by what I saw on Brian's website. Surely it can't hurt to follow up on his very specific 'leads', especially as they are very much in the local area and surely wouldn't take people on a wild goose chase. There are even photos up of possible apartments.
Does anyone know whether police are already looking into these?
BAÚ
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on Monday 21.05.2007, 11:49 PM
I HAVE SEEN "LIGHTS" AND "BAÚ" (AS IN TRUNK FOR PORTUGUESE). I don't have any experience in RV. This is my 10 cents. It can be anything. Did anybody "find" the same? It can be Albufeira or another city anywhere. Thanks.
madelein
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on Monday 21.05.2007, 06:01 PM
Someone has got to listen to www.briansdreams.com. this guy has a proven track record (94% success rate). All his drawings and dreams are consistant with this case and seem to suggest that the police were right in the first place, that is to say that she is still alive and well close to where she was taken. Someone has got to get the police to take this guy seriously he could end this pain for everyone!!.......
psychic help
I believe only with a psychic help police could find madeleine.... I´ve already contact via email the family and tell them to contact Carla Baron....or someone who realy could do it with honesty.
Brians Dreams
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on Monday 21.05.2007, 09:16 AM
With regard to Remote Viewings and Madeleine McCann, I suggest readers look at the following website http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5441.htm.
His dreams and RV's have dumbfounded me - an otherwise sceptical scientist. Brian (of Brian's Dreams) firmly believes that she is not only still alive, but very close to where she was taken. Surely someone should check these details out? If it were my child I would want to personally ensure this lead was taken seriously. I have sent the link to Sky News, BBC news, and to the McCann campaign team directly but fear they will ignore it. I also believe Crimestoppers UK have been informed.
Supernatural
Near dogs and a goat and not ahppy at being away from her parents. Truly this psychic is genius itself! Amazing insight. Give her the 2.5 million right away. How did we not think of it before?! "Unhappy to be away from her parents" - the case is solved. The Supernatural - it's the only way to go! Anyone seen my old wristwatch ?
Thinking of Maddie
I hope she will be home very soon, to her Family, I heart goes out to the little soul, I also hope that the TRV can put some light on to where Maddie is
Jacqui
I have been watching and praying daily for the return of Madeleine. My heart is ripping each day when I turn on the news to see she has not yet been found. I think that if TRV can give a little extra helping hand to the police, then why not use it. So OK, maybe a lot of the dreams will have dead ends, but it will get the police to search more places than if they had nothing at all.
Brianspredictions dot com has a lot of the clues there which may or may not be right. I like to think he has got a gift, even though all over the web I hear he is hoax. However if he is going to get more people to search his clues, it is one step closer to finding this little girl.
You would be surprised at all the predictions I have read concerning this subject, but each one I read, it gives me hope that this beautiful and innocent little girl will be found.
Michael
Very interesting psychic information Michael, I am not psychic but have read enough to know it is possible, particularly for the Celtic races. Dion Fortune reckoned you could enhance it with images and mind training. Could you try again with maps and images of Madeleine? I have heard that a reduced vegetarian diet and Christian symbols can be helpful. (By restricting the physical you enhance the other powers). Projecting positive protective shields is recommended in white or gold, think of a living interleaving scintillating colour with no gaps ie. a complete aura. Also intoned sounds seem to help. Give me a more definite location and I can easily arrange a visit.
Do you think the sighting in Morocco is significant?
Regards
Chris
HOPE!
I REALLY DO BELIVE MADDIE IS STILL ALIVE. I HAVE CRYED SO MUCH ABOUT HER I`M OF TO PORTAGAL SOON AND I TELL YOU MY HOLE HOILDAY WILL BE TRING TO LOOK FOR MADDIE. I,M GOING TO TAKE DAY TRIPS TO PLACES AND AND JUST LOOK. I,M SURE EVERYONE IS DOING THE SAME. WE ALL JUST WANT HER BACK WITH HER MUMMY&DADDY; AND BROTHER,SISTER. HOPE YOUR SAFE LITTLE FLOWER. XXXXXXXXXX
Keep an Open Mind = Who Knows?
I have had only a handful of psychic experiences in the past - usually around the day of a major traumatic event. On the morning of 7/7 I awoke to tell my wife that another 9/11 was about to take place. My initial reponse to her query was that it might be Leeds (it was in fact London but the bombers actually came from Leeds. The second came shortly afterwards when I 'heard' the shots of a police marksman ring out and I said they police were going to shortly shoot a suspected terrorist (later in the day Jean Charles de Menezes was mistaken for a terrorist and shot by London police). My experiences tend to occur in the early hours of the morning. For the last few weeks I had a steady stream of similar experiences. On Friday May 4th I awoke in the middle of the night to hear the crying and sobbing of a child. I checked our children but none were crying (we live in a detached house in the remote highlands of scotland). I tried going back to sleep with my arm over my ear to cut out the sound but it would not subside. I woke in the morning to tell my wife I could see the left hand corner of a green tennis court with a pink/orange gravel surround. The following Monday 7th May - the McCann family released unseen pictures of Madeleine on the tennis court shortly before her abduction. With the exception of the child, the photo was identical to that which I had 'seen'. In the early hours of another morning I 'saw' what seemed to be a car-park (perhaps near a petrol station near a hyper-market). I was being told to crouch under the front-end of the car and pull my feet in. I was told we were going to give someone a surprise on their birthday. I didn't like the person I was with - but I didn't feel in immediate danger. Another moring I 'heard' the words 'christendom' and 'farm' when I asked for information about Madeleine (the only time I have ever tried to ask for information). My last experince came earlier this week when I 'saw' a disused railway and trains - that eventually led to an exceptionally damp basement/cellar/underground area. In the corner I saw a figure covered in what looked like a heavy green gardening refuse sack that seemed to be acting as a rain-mack, It had large, thickset studs down the centre. A torch was being flashed at the figure - and fearful I brought myself out of it and woke my wife. I have really no idea where any of the experiences came from and am completely open-minded as to whether they are 'remote' viewing experiences. I only know that all of them were very unsettling and unsavoury.
madeleine mcCann (remote viewers) my comment
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on Sunday 20.05.2007, 09:44 PM
with remote viewing yes i think caution has to be taken, yet when a child like maddy is missing and the police have nowhere to go with firm links to find her then every comment could be the one comment that finds her, for me i feel she was still at the holiday village the whole first night, i also believe she was with a local man in his home for a short amount of time before being moved on, then driven out of the country the following day,i do think a local chap is involved the police just have not dug deep enough,in my honest opinion if a true spirit of a person was a psychic they wldn't take the reward, they would donate it back to this charity that the Mc Cann family have set up. i am psychic, but i wouldn't wont publicity this is about no one other than this family, anyone who tries to make a name from that is sick, if they are real they would wont to be involved unnoticed. i think they need to act very quickly on this.no one is clever enough to cover all the evidence, its just knowing how to find it.. i do however think that it was not planned until the family was watched leaving there kids and i also do not think it was the first evening the children were left unattended, i think a local man clocked this, i also think there is a volvo involved at some point to transport from one car to another. you know if anything can get a terrible situation resolved then yes remote viewing is important. i just hope they hurry up.
Mrs
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on Sunday 20.05.2007, 09:38 PM
Fatasic news\
I called crimestoppers the day that the number was given out to suggest this and I also mentioned it on the website that was\set up that asked for any suggestions as to how to help bring new ideas into the search
I also suggested lie detectors
Do you know - I am absolutely heartbroken regarding this little angel
I have creid tears as if she were my own child
But how selfish is that - I have no right to feel like that - All that i should be feeling and thinking about is what poor little madeleine is going through and where is she
I feel so strongly that she is still alive and have done from the very start
I only hope that the people or person that has took her is lying low because of all the worldwide attention that this is getting so Madedline still hasn't been passed on to anyone else meaning that no harm has come to her when she is found - If indeeed this is what they have taken Madeleine for .
I think it is fantastic that it has caused so much worldwide care and concearn .
I hope that when madedelien is found , and she will be found because we are all praying for this and I genuinely beleive that God is listening to us ,That the fund that madeleines parents have started can be used to find all children and create as much attention to every case
This way , people who take children will think twice about it because it will make things very dfficult for them if europe and the rset of the world are bound together in fighting this .
Please , lets all keep positive - I,m sure that she will turn up safe and well .
Heartbroken mother of four year old twins
GOD BLESS YOU SWEETHEART WHERE EVER YOU ARE AND GOD KEEP YOU SAFE AND BRAVE PURE LITTLE INNOCENT MADELEINE XXXXXXXXX CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DAY WHEN THE NEWS IS FILLED OF PICTURES OF YOU IN THE ARMS OF YOUR MUMMY AND DADDY CUDDLING AND HOLDING YOU TIGHT SMOTHERING YOU WITH LOVE .XXXXX
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